2 17033F

 

 

 

3 14010F

4 14011M

 

 

Brenda Rohl2 who researched the above data made the following comment:

 

In 1902 when Henry Euean Rumble died, along with the abstract for his Will appeared the admins of Henry, Frances Mary3 and Joseph Humfrey4 Rumble in the same volume . . . Henry, Frances and Joseph all died a long time before 1902, and were not in a position to have ,100 - especially Henry! Grace must have discovered that there were no death duties or taxes to be paid if a person left less than ,100, and as no will or admin had been granted for her deceased brothers or sister, she invented the ,99 each (this would have been left to their father, but as he had died, it was indirectly left to her.) Hence Henry Rumble did not write a will, nor did Frances or Joseph. I believe their names were only used for Grace's benefit as a tax dodge.

 

 

 

 


030A     14    006A    M   WALL                        ROBERT WILLIAM             0ch                                                   (18??)


 

1 A family photo of the wedding names him as

Thomas but other sources

refer to him as Robert.

 

2 15010M

 

 

               
     

ittle is known of Robert, the husband of Grace de Brotherton Rumble. They were married in October 18991.  In the entry in the 1922 Index of Wills for the Will of his wife Grace, his stated occupation is clerk. Horace Rumble2  was in London in 1918 and met Grace and Robert. In 1989 he recalled that:

 

I couldn't get much out of Thomas. He was working in some munitions show and he wouldn't go to any shows.

 


001A     14    006A    F    RUMBLE                    GRACE DE BROTHERTON  0ch                                          ( ?. ?.1862)


 

1 In 198 Brenda Rohl (17033F) checked the

London Record Office. Grace's birth was recorded in the Newbury Parish re­cord Sept.1862 reference 2c 203.

 

2 15016F

3 14004F

4 14008F


race was the daughter of Henry Euean Rumble & Grace Humfrey. She was probably born at Newbury in 18621.  She married Robert William Wall in October 1899. Dorothy Fall2 stated that she had no children. Kate Rumble3 in her diary states that her sister in law, Blanche4 wrote telling her that Grace died in England on 1 May 1922 (at Wandsworth). The entry in the Index of Wills states:

 

Wall, Grace de Brotherton of 46 Wavertree Road Streatham Hill in the County of Surrey (Wife of Robert William Wall) who died 1 May 1922 Probate London to Robert William Wall clerk  Personal effects , 657 10s.

 


001A     14    007A    M   RUMBLE                    ?                                                                                                                       (18??)


 

1 15016F

 

Dorothy Fall1 reported that Henry Euean Rumble and Grace Humfrey had a third child, a son, who died soon after birth.

 


001A     14    008A    F    RUMBLE                    EUEANITA BLANCHE        SINGLE                                   ( ?. ?.1864)



 

1 Source: Michael Rumble

(16001M). Brenda Rohl (17033F) researching in the London Records office in 1989 noted her birth as "Eueanita Blanche" in the parish of Eastbourne for the quarter October - December 1864, reference 2b 63.

 

2 14004F 

3 15016F

4 Source 15008F

 

5 14009F

 

 

 

 

6 14003M

7 15008F

8 15009M

9 14009F

 

lanche was the fourth child of Henry Rumble & Grace Humfrey. She was born in 1864 at Eastbourne, England and died on 11 July 1949 at Worthing1. She remained single, training as a nurse at St. Batholemews, London. She corresponded regularly with both Kate Rumble2 and Dorothy Fall3, and was the source of much of the Rumble family information contained in this record.

Blanche was always interested in the family but was sometimes regarded as a troublemaker4.

 

The entry in the Index of Wills states:

Rumble, Eueanita Blanche of 49 St. Lawrence Avenue Worthing in the County of Sussex spinster died 11 July 1949. Probate London 1 October to Mercy Geraldine Rumble5 spinster. Personal Effects ,2,093 3. 3d.

 

In her will she left her gold watch to Ernest Duncan Lambert Rumble6, a Ruby and Diamond Ring to niece Frances Martha Rumble7, a drawing to Joseph Duncan Rumble8 and the residue of her estate to her sister Mercy Geraldine Rumble9.

 


-PN-     GN   -FN-     G    SURNAME                 GIVEN NAMES                                                                        CH.FNs            BIRTH DATE

001A     14    009A    F    RUMBLE                    MERCY GERALDINE          SINGLE                                   ( ?. ?.1877)

 


 

1 The London Records Of­fice  shows that the birth of Mercy Geraldine Rumble was recorded in the parish of Eastbourne for the quarter  July-September 1877, refer­ence 2b 64.

 

2 14004F

3 15016F

4 15009M

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5 15008F

 

6 15007M

 

7 15006M


ercy is believed to be the youngest child of Henry Rumble & Grace Humfrey. It is likely that she was born in 1877 but her precise date of her birth is not known1.  She  remained single and lived in West Worthing in the later part of her life. She corresponded regularly with Kate Rumble2 and Dorothy Fall3.

 

In her home at West Worthing she had on her wall a framed parchment of the de Brotherton coat of arms. This was passed to  Joseph Duncan Rumble4 and was in his possession in 1990. Mercy died at Camberley on 3 August 1964.

 

The entry in the Index of Wills states:

 

Rumble, Mercy Geraldine of 23 Fir Drive Hawley Camberley in the County of Surrey Spinster who died 3 August 1964 at Whitehanger Fenhurst Haslemere in the County of Surrey Probate Lewes to Westminster Bank Ltd. Personal Effects ,5,502.

 

In her Will she gave her red tea set to be divided between nephew Joseph Duncan Rumble and Frances Martha Rumble5. Joseph also received ,50 stg. Her house at 49 St.Lawrence Avenue Worthing was bequeathed to her nephew Thomas Euean Rumble6, while her house at 45 South Croxted Road West Dulwich went to her niece Frances Martha Rumble. The residue of her estate went to nephew John Faithful Scott Rumble7.

 


001A     14    010A    F    RUMBLE                    FRANCES MARY                 SINGLE                                   ( ?. ?.1870)


 

1 Brenda Rohl (17033F) researching in the London Records Office in 1989 could not find Frances listed.


rances, the daughter of Henry Rumble & Grace Humfrey, was born in 1870 at Eastbourne, England and remained single. She died at Eastbourne on 25 November 1893, at the age of 23. Nothing else is known of her. 

The abstract of her will reads as follows:

 

RUMBLE Frances Mary of Eastbourne spinster died 25th November 1893. ADMIN London 6th October to Grace de Brotherton Wall (wife of Robert Wall) Effects ,99 10s 3d. 

 

 


001A     14    011A    M   RUMBLE                    JOSEPH HUMFREY             SINGLE                                   ( ?. ?.1872)



 

1 The London Records Office records his birth in the parish of Eastbourne for the quarter January- March 1872, (Reference 2b 72) -It is presumed that he was born late in 1871 or early 1872.

 

2 15008F.

See also the entry for

Ernest Rumble (14003M).

 

oseph, the son of Henry Rumble & Grace Humfrey, was born in 18721 at Eastbourne, England and remained single. He died on 23 June 1892 at Eastbourne, at the age of 21. Frances Baynton2 said that he drew well, but died from diabetes, there being no treatment for it at the time.

 

The abstract of his Will which reads as follows:

 

RUMBLE Joseph Humfrey of Eastbourne died 23rd June 1892. ADMIN London 6th October to Grace de Brotherton Wall (wife of Robert Wall) Effects ,99 10s 3d.

 


-PN-     GN   -FN-     G    SURNAME                 GIVEN NAMES                    CH.FNs                                BIRTH DATE

002A     14    012A    M   WEBB                        HARRY                                                                                       (18??)


 

 

Nothing is known of Harry, the son of Henry Webb and Jane Rumble.

 


007A     14    013A    M   KNIGHT                     VALENTINE E.                   17-19                                     (22.11.1862)


 

 

1 14004F

 

2 14015M

3 No.2 Vanbrugh Terrace - the home of Anthony & Letitia Knight.

 

 

4 A description of the grave is given under the entry for Anthony Knight (13007M).

 

 

 

5 Dornberg Road is just off the Old Dover Road, and very near to his parents home in Vanbrugh Terrace.

 

 


alentine Elphinstone, the son of Anthony Knight and Letitia Hochee, was born on 22 November 1862. He married Lavinia Jane (Jenny) Ruvell in 1891, at Stockton, England. In an 1897 letter to Kate Rumble1 , Henry St.John Knight2 stated that Val and Jenny were still living at Blackheath3 "Val doing drafts­man's work at Woolwich, but is looking out for the first opportunity of going out to the Cape." He died on 21 March 1904 at the age of 41, leaving Jenny as a comparatively young widow. They had three children: Valentine, Frederick and (Courtney St.) Aubyn. Valentine is buried in the family grave at Charlton cemetery, Greenwich4.

 

The entry in the Index of Wills states:

 

Knight, Valentine Elphinstone of 21 Dornberg Road Black­heath5 in the County of Kent who died 21 March 1904. Admin London to Anthony Knight.

Personal effects , 277 11s.

 


  0         14    013A    F    RUVELL                    LAVINIA JANE (JENNY)     17-19                                               (18??)


 

1 13007F


othing is known of Jenny, Valentine Knight's wife. They had three children: Valentine, Frederick and Courtney St.Aubyn. In 1920 Letitia Hochee1 left her ,500.

 


007A     14    014A    M   KNIGHT                     FREDERICK WILLIAM       0ch                                          ( 3. 8.1864)



 

 

 

 

 

 

1 14015M

 

 

 

 

 

2 14004F

 

 

 

 

 

 

3 15016F

 

 

4 13039M

 

rederick William Anthony was the son of Anthony Knight & Letitia Hochee. He was born on 3 August 1864. His date of marriage is not known. He died on 12 October 1932 at Hendon, England. 

 

Fred became an engineer on a cable ship in South America. Henry St.John Knight1 stated that Fred sailed for Rio on 2 November 1894 to join the Western Brazilian Telegraph company, having signed a three year engagement; he returned in November 1896. He married Mary Gerard Rawlinson in Pernambuco (Recife), a coastal port in Brazil. They had no child­ren.  His sister Kate2 noted in her diary that on 13 March 1911, at Pernambuco, he was received into the Catholic church. In April 1919 Fred was possibly about to return to Britain from Brazil, since his sister Kate notes in her diary that she wrote two letters him on the same day, one addressed to Brazil, the other to the family home at Blackheath.

 

Dorothy Fall3 stated that he retired back in England but could not stand the cold so bought a lovely home called "La Fosse" at Guernsey in the Channel Islands.

 

In 1922 he inherited ,500 from his Uncle Sydney Poole Lowdell4.

The entry in the Index of Wills states:

 

Knight, Frederick William Anthony of La Fosse St Martins Guernsey Channel Islands who died 12 October 1932 Probate London to Henry St.John Knight, Major H.M.Army. Personal Effects ,7,588 12s 3d

 


-PN-     GN   -FN-     G    SURNAME                 GIVEN NAMES                    CH.FNs                                BIRTH DATE

031A     14    014A    F    RAWLINSON              MARY GERARD                  0ch                                                   (18??)

 


 

 

 

1 Source 15016F


ittle is known of Mary Gerard, the wife of Fred Knight. She lived for 16 years after Fred's death, survived the 1939-1942 World War II and was still living in Guernsey when the Germans occupied the island1. She died on 28 February, 1948 at Guernsey.

 

The entry in the Index of Wills states:

 

Knight, Mary Gerard of The Convent of the Sacred Heart Blanchelande Guernsey widow who died 28 February 1948 Probate London to Lloyds Bank Ltd. Personal Effects ,4,371 8s 4d

 


007A     14    015A    M   KNIGHT                     HENRY St.JOHN                  20-21                                      (24. 7.1867)



R

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1The marriage is recorded in the parish of Lewisham for the September 1894 quarter, 1d 1846

 

 

 

 

2 Shorncliffe camp is very near to Sandgate.

 

 

3 14004F

 

 

 

enry, the son of Anthony Knight & Letitia Hochee, was born on 24 July 1867 in New Zealand.  He married three times and died on 28 January 1951 at Winchester. He was in the Army Royal Engineers, served in South Africa, Palestine, the Far East, and Canada. He built army huts at Salisbury Plains, England, in the first world war.

 

Before joining the army, he worked at Gravesend but, in October 1892, at the age of 23, he left his work there to study at home for exams as Assistant Surveyor Royal Engineers, Civil Staff War Office.

 

In November 1893 he went up for his exams, which took  six days. Fourteen took the exams for only four vacancies. In January 1894 he commenced duty at Woolwich as Warrant Officer Surveyor, having taken fourth place in the exams. On 31 March 1894 he left Woolwich to take up duty at Devonport. 

 

Henry became engaged on 25 August 1892 to Ellen Theresa Glanville and married at Blackheath on 5 July 18941. Ellen was known as Nellie, and they held a wedding reception with sixty-five relatives and friends present. Then followed a three week honeymoon at Southwold.

 

Living at Plymouth, Henry returned to work at Devonport. He was transferred to Shorncliffe Camp2 on 9 October 1896, where he lived in a large house but was later given an overseas posting.

 

In 1897 he wrote to his sister Kate3 about his life at Shorncliffe[1]:

 

I have most comfortable quarters here with 3 acre kitchen garden attached, and a nice strip of lawn but am expecting my turn abroad within this year or early next. Our little boy who we now call "Anton" is nearly two years old - our only one, but the life of our small household.

 

It seemed rather remarkable to me that I should be sent to Shorncliffe. I remember so well 20 years ago when we stayed at (Hatton?) House Sandgate how we used to walk up the hill with the Pater and see the troops. Our situation is delight­ful - the best in thewhole camp - The house stands on the edge of a hill looking up a lovely wooded valley to the right with picturesque houses dotted here and there between the trees - to the left we see Hythe and right across a bay to Dungeness Point - 16 miles across.


 

 

I have done all the work in the garden and have a good supply of nearly every vegetable. The quarters, for which I only have to pay ,20 a year, contain the following rooms & all large rooms. Drawing room, spare bedroom, pantry, dining room, nursery, best bedroom, W.C., servant's bedroom, lumber room, wine cellar, passage 60 feet long, kitchen, scullery, coal cellar, store & larder & bathroom.  You will be interested, I know, to hear that I am now getting ,210 per annum but, as we are obliged to keep a nurse as well as a general servant, I find it none too much.

 

The flower garden, too, is very nice with plenty of roses and flowers to supply the vases all the summer.  The great drawback is when one is moved, the moving of furniture is not repaid so I was over ,20 out of pocket when I came from Devonport.  In going abroad, Nell's passage will be paid by the War Department & also Anton's which is an (???) - I have no idea at present where we will be sent to next. The pay, however, is always greatly increased at foreign stations.

 

4 "Shortie" is presumably a nickname for Henry Vincent Shortland (13063M), the

hus­band of Alice.

 

5 The exact address of Henry's house is not known but John Fall (16021M) has an envelope addressed to Mrs H.H. Rumble, around 1900-1902, on the back of which is written "Major H.St.John Knight, 15 Anchor Road, Eastleigh, Hampshire."

 

Pater & Mater both keep well, and now are at Eastbourne with Aunt Alice & Shortie4, the latter being over 90 and still hale.

 

There is great commotion everywhere over the coming Queen's Diamond Jubilee. I am not going to see it - they say over 4 million of people will witness the proces­sion & enormous prices are being paid for some of the seats. Hitchcock & Williams facing St.Paul's churchyard realising ,7,000 for Jubilee week.... 5

 

Henry and Nellie had only one child, Anthony Henry [who was known as Anton]. Nellie died in 1897 giving birth to their second child, a daughter. The baby also died at birth. Henry maintained contact with his sister Kate Rumble and niece Dorothy Fall.

 

 


-PN-     GN   -FN-     G    SURNAME                 GIVEN NAMES                    CH.FNs                                BIRTH DATE

032A     14    015A    F    GLANVILLE              ELLEN THERESA                20-21                                             (1875?)

 


 


ery little is known of Ellen, who was known as Nellie. She was probably born in 1875, and married Henry St.John Knight on 5 July 1894, but died in 1897, giving birth to her second child.

 

Her death, at the age of 22, is recorded in the parish of Elham for the September 1897 quarter [reference 2a 637]. When she knew she was dying she asked her husband's cousin Mary Emily Pocock to look after her young son.

 


007A     14    015B     M   KNIGHT                     HENRY St.JOHN                  22-23,153                                (24. 7.1869)



 

Mary was the daughter of Annie Hochee (13038F) and Crawford John Pocock.

 

1 In 1990 Brenda Rohl

 (17033F) searched  the London Records Office for a record of Henry's marriage to May Pocock, but could not find it.

2 15020M

3 14004F

 

 

 

4 Source: Kate's diary for 2 August 1927. Her diary entry for 12 December 1927 also states: "Letter to Uncle Henry to his new home at Botley." His address was "The Oaks," Botley, Hants.

5 13039M

 

enry's second marriage, at St.Peter's in Brighton, was to his cousin, Mary Emily (May) Pocock1.  By this marriage there was a daughter, Edith, who died in infancy, and then two sons, Ernest St.John and William Crawford. Anton Knight2, Henry's son by his first marriage, said that the Chinese strain showed strongly in Ernest and William, `particular­ly the latter as, of course, his mother was the daughter of one of Granny's sisters, Annie Pocock.' 

 

Henry went to several postings during his army career. He wrote to his sister Kate3 in September 1920 from Palestine. In that year, his wife, May, wrote to Kate from Brighton.

 

He retired on 24 July 19274.

 

In 1922 Henry inherited about ,500 stg. from his uncle Sydney Poole Lowdell5 The entry in the Index of Wills for his brother Frederick, granted probate to Henry St.John and stated him as a Major in H.M.Army.

 

May died late in March 1943 and Henry remarried for the third time.

 


-PN-     GN   -FN-     G    SURNAME                 GIVEN NAMES                    CH.FNs                                BIRTH DATE

038A     14    015B     F    POCOCK                    MARY EMILY (MAY)         22-23,153                                 (8. 8.1872)

 


 

 

 

1 14004F

 

2 13039M

 


ary Emily, the daughter of Dr Crawford John Pocock and Ann Hochee, was born on 8 August 1872. Little is known of her. The diaries of Kate Rumble1 consistently refer to her as "May." It is presumed that this was the name by which she was known in the family. However, Sydney Poole Lowdell2 in his Will stated:

 

To Mary Knight daughter of my deceased sister Ann Pocock two thousand five hundred pounds . . . ,

 

and her probate notice names her as "Mary Emily."

 

She married Henry St.John Knight, her first cousin, in 1901. Their first child, Edith, died in infancy. They then had two sons, Ernest and William.

 

May died on 13 March 1943, and was buried at Brighton with her parents. The entry in the index of Wills states:

 

Knight Mary Emily of West View London Road St.Ives Huntington (wife of Henry St.John Knight) died 13 March 1943 at Grove Nursing Home Hills Road Cambridge Probate Winchester to Henry St.John Knight retired Major H.M.Army.

Personal Effects ,1,307 17s 1d.

 


007A     14    015C    M   KNIGHT                     HENRY St.JOHN                  24-26                                      (24. 7.1869)



 

 

1 15016F

2 15020M

3 17033F

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4 See Anton's comments regarding Susie's father.

 

 

 

n August 1943, at the age of 75 Henry married Susie, a young girl in her twenties.  Almost immediately, on 17 August 1943, he remade his Will. There is some confusion as both Dorothy Fall1 and Anton Knight2 said that Susie's surname was Meager. However, Brenda Rohl3 reported that the London Record Office showed that the marriage of Henry St.John Knight and Susie W.M. Turrell was registered in the parish of Salisbury for the September quarter of 1943, [Reference 5a 488.]

 

Henry had three children by this third marriage, the first being a son, Percy, born in September 1944. The second child was Graham, born in 1946, and the third John, born in 1948.

 

Henry died on 28 January, 1951 at Winchester at the age of 82. Dorothy Fall stated that he left his entire estate of ,20,000 to Susie, and that Anton, his eldest son by his first marriage, was very upset by this4.

However, the abstract of Henry's will states:

 

KNIGHT Henry St.John of 13 Archers Road, Eastleigh, Hampshire died 28th January 1951 at the Royal Hants County Hospital Winchester. PROBATE Winchester 21st March to Arthur Charles Morrish Sol. Effects ,730. 4s.

 

This is at variance with the ,20,000 stated by Dorothy Fall. It is possible that he may have made a gift of most of his estate to Susie well before he died, or that Dorothy Fall romanticised the amount. His last Will and Testa­ment is very simple. He left his entire estate to Susie and gave, as burial in­structions:

 

I desire that my body be buried by my Brethren in the Lord with whom I have been in fellowship for over fifty years and locally represented at the Meeting Room Northlands Road Eastleigh I direct that my body be laid to rest in Plot D.184 in the Eastleigh and Bishopstoke Cemetery which plot I purchased on the nineteenth day of February One thousand nine hundred and thirty two under receipt number 1775.

 


-PN-     GN   -FN-     G    SURNAME                 GIVEN NAMES                    CH.FNs                                BIRTH DATE

040A     14    015C    F    TURRELL                  SUSIE WINIFRED MARY     24-26                                               (19??)

 


 


othing is known of Susie except that her father was a "Wheel Tapper" and that she married Henry St.John Knight and bore him three children. There is some confusion regarding her surname. Anton Knight stated it to be Meager, but the London Record Office gives it as Turrell.  Her father is recorded in this register under the name of Turrell.

 


007A     14    016A    M   KNIGHT                     CHURCHILL                       27                                            ( ?. ?.1879)



 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1 14015M

2 14004F

 

 

 

 

 

 

3 Brenda Rohl (17033F) who undertook this research added by way of explan­ation: F xi 1897 = football team. In that year they lost both major games against other schools. Lost to

Brad­ford 7-0, lost to

Malvern 9-0.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4 15016F

 

5 13039M

 

 

 

hurchill, or "Church" as he was known in the family, the youngest child of Anthony Knight & Letitia Hochee, was born at Elham, England probably in 1879.  The Lon­don Records Office listed his birth in the quarterly edition for March 1879, for the parish of Elham, reference 2a 992.  Presumably he was born early in 1879, or in 1878. In the 1881 census, when his parents were at 28 Hyde Gardens, Eastbourne, he was listed as 2 years of age.

 

In 1897, his brother Henry St.John1 wrote to his sister Kate2:

 

Churchill is finishing his schooling at Radley College near Oxford & is now 18 years of age.   

 

The following entry occurs in the book: Register of St.Peter's College, Radley:

 

Michaelmas 1893 - Knight, Churchill (Master - Mr Bryans) son of Anthony Knight of 2 Vanbrough Tce Blackheath F xi 18973, left 1898 II. Electrical Engineer. m. 1906 Daisy Maud dau of William Charles Burnett of Brantwood, Oakcroft Road Blackheath."

 

Churchill went on to Oxford and, in 1906, married Daisy Burnett. The English Civil Registration from 1837 Index shows his marriage recorded in the parish of Lewisham for the December 1906 quarter, reference 1d 2004, where it is stated that he married Daisy Maud Burnett.  After his marriage he went with his wife to Shanghai to work as an engineer.

 

 

In her diary, his sister Kate recorded writing her first letter to Church­ill's wife Daisy in Shanghai on 20 October 1917.

 

According to Dorothy Fall4 he was "well off", eventually owning a stud farm. In 1922 he inherited about ,500 stg. from his Uncle Sydney Poole Lowdell5. He retired back to England in 1934 at the age of 55 to live in Devon. He and Daisy had one son, Ronald, who was tragically killed in an air crash over Africa.  Churchill died on 8 May 1942.

 

The entry in the Index of Wills stated:

 

Knight Churchill late of Nortons Bideford in the County of Devonshire who died 8 May 1942 Probate Bodmin to Daisy Maud Knight widow. Personal Effects ,6,404 19s 2d.

 


-PN-     GN   -FN-     G    SURNAME                 GIVEN NAMES                    CH.FNs                                BIRTH DATE

033A     14    016A    F    BURNETT                  DAISY MAUD                      27                                                    (18??)

 


 

1 15016F

 


ittle is known of Daisy, except that Dorothy Fall1 stated that her family name was Morgan and that she was connected with Morgan's bank.  How­ever, research in the London Records Office shows that her family name was Burnett.

 

She married Churchill Knight and they had one child, Ronald. We do not know her date of birth or death.

 


  0         14    017A    M   AINSLIE                     WILLIAM                            27                                                    (18??)


 


Nothing is known of the father-in-law of Ronald Knight other than that he was a medical practitioner. He lived in Hereford, England.

 


010A     14    018A    M   FALL                         GEORGE EDWARD             ?                                            (19.10.1850)


 


eorge Edward was born on 19 October 1850, being the eldest son of James Fall and Louisa Townshend of Long Buckby, Northampton­shire, England. He married twice, and nothing is known of his first marriage, or whether there were children of that marriage. The name of his first wife is not known.

 


010A     14    018B     M   FALL                         GEORGE EDWARD             16,28-29                                 (19.10.1850)



 

 

1 15028M

2 15029F

3 15016M

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4 14021M

 

 

 

 

 

5 16021M

 

eorge Edward Fall was born on 19 October 1850. Nothing is known of his first marriage. Just before the turn of the century he married Emily Louisa McNamara. There were three children by this marriage: Donald Townshend1, Marjorie Louisa2 and Victor George3.

George died on 19 August 1917.

 

The following information was supplied by Victor George Fall:

 

As a young man, George Edward was sent by his father in 1866 to Dundee, to learn the family business. In 1885, with a junior partner, M.H.Woolley, he founded a business: "M.H.Fall & Co." (The M.H. was from Woolley and there was no "& Co.")  The clothing factory was in Long Buckby and the building was still there in 1960.

 

Gilbert & Sullivan's opera, H.M.S. Pinafore, after its first performance in 1878, created a large demand for pinafores, so George con­cent­rated on these, importing artificial silk and other materials from Germany and Japan. By the turn of the century he had built up quite an export trade with Can­ada and South Africa, and became quite prosperous.

 

 

In 1899 he bought  "The Firs" in Long Buckby with its two and one half acres of land. In 1905 he bought out his partner Woolley for ,5,000 and at the same time lent several thous­and to his brother Tom4 who had become a lace manu­fact­urer in Not­tingham. He never got this back and was henceforth short of capital. The busi­ness thrived up to 1914 when the First World War cut material supp­lies, and exports became difficult. In 1916 be became ill and died on 19 August, 1917.

 

George is buried in the Anglican churchyard at Long Buckby, and John Fall5 located this in 1958.

 


-PN-     GN   -FN-     G    SURNAME                 GIVEN NAMES                    CH.FNs                                BIRTH DATE

011A     14    018B     F    McNAMARA              EMILY LOUISA                   16,28-29                                 (23. 5.1870)

 


 


mily, the daughter of John McNamara, was born on 23 May 1870. She be­came a nurse in the London General Hospital. Just before the turn of the cent­ury, she came up to Long Buckby to nurse George Edward Fall who had suff­ered a broken kneecap. He was twenty years older than she, but they married and had three children. Some years after George's death she married a Mr Dunk­ley. We have no record of her date of death.

 


  0         14    018C    M   DUNKLEY                 JOHN WILLIAM                  0ch                                                   (18??)


 


r Dunkley married Emily Fall on 9 December 1925. They had no children. His Will, dated 29 August 1934, described him as a retired grocer. He died before April 1936, but the date is unknown.

 


011A     14    018C    F    McNAMARA              EMILY LOUISA                   0ch                                         (23. 5.1870)


 

 

 

 

 

1 14004F

2 15016F

 


fter her first husband died in 1917, Emily married again on 9 December 1925. Little is known of her second husband, Mr Dunkley. They had no children.

 

There is a note in the diary of Kate Rumble1 on 15 April, 1926, "Letter from Dolly2 enclosing ,2 to buy jarrah souvenir for her mother-in-law's second wedding."

 


010A     14    019A    F    FALL                         LUCY                                  SINGLE                                           (18??)


 


ucy was the daughter of James Fall & Louisa Townshend. She remained single and lived most of her life in Dublin, Ireland. We do not know her

date of birth or death.[see the entry for Laura Fall]

 


010A     14    020A    F    FALL                         LAURA                                SINGLE                                           (18??)


 

 

 

1 15016M

 


aura was the daughter of James Fall & Louisa Townshend. Like her sister Lucy, she remained single and lived most of her life in Dublin, Ireland. Victor Fall1 said: They never married and, believe me, they were quaint old souls when I knew them.

 


010A     14    021A    M   FALL                         THOMAS                             30                                                    (18??)


 

 

1 15016M

 


ittle is known of Thomas, the second son of James Fall and Louisa Towns­hend. Victor Fall1 stated that he became a lace manufacturer in Nottingham and that his older brother George once lent him several thousand pounds, which was never repaid. We know that he married and had a son, also called Thomas. We do not know his date of birth or death.

 

 



-PN-     GN   -FN-     G    SURNAME                 GIVEN NAMES                    CH.FNs                                BIRTH DATE

021A     14    025A    M   MELSON                    THOMAS RAITHBY             36+ 9 others                               (21. 3.1865)

 


M

1 See the Descendancy chart

in the entry for Thomas's

father 13021AM

 


ittle of known of Thomas except that he was born on 21 March 1865 at Sheffield, England and became  a Steel Examiner in Sheffield. He married Jemima Richardson and they had ten children: Twins, Mary and Jemima, who died when one week old, John, Robert, Edward, Joseph, Susan, Herbert, Harry and Gertrude1.

 


014A     14    025A    F    RICHARDSON            JEMIMA (JENNY)                36 + 9 others                              (31. 7.1864)

 


M


ittle is known of Jenny.  She was born on 31 July 1864, but there is conflicting information about her place of birth. One source states her birth place as  Inverness, Scotland, while the other gives Syston Park, England.  She married Thomas Melson and had ten children. She died on 14 July 1949 (at Maltby, England?).

 


012A     14    026A    M   ALLERTON                WILLIAM THOMAS EDWARD      36,48-49                                 (27.11.1873)

 


 

He is shown in his parents' bible as Thomas William, but his daughter Violet's wedding certificate shows him as William Thomas, and this was the way he was known.

 

 

Migration to

Western Australia

 

1 1 Acre = 0.405 Hectare


illiam Thomas Edward Allerton, the son of Thomas Castleton Allerton and Maryann King, was born at Aldeburgh, Suffolk, England on 27 November 1873.  He married Annie Emily Cater in 1900 and had three children Violet (b.1902), William (b.1903) and Henry (Harry) (b.1905).

 

The family migrated to Western Australia somewhere between 1910 and 1912. While William worked as a railway fettler in the South-West of the State to save ,20 to buy a quarter acre1 block of land in Harris Street, Palmyra, his wife and children stayed first with friends and then rented a house in South Fremantle, taking in two spinster boarders. William returned to Palmyra and probably worked in labouring jobs until retirement.  At one time he worked for the Mt. Lyell Superphosphate Works in North Fremantle and, later, for the Fremantle tramways.

 


Living in a tent.

Clearing their block

and building a house


Initially, the family lived in a tent on their block, while working hard to clear it of eleven large trees. Then they built a small house with occasional help from neighbours. Everyone helped everyone in those days as no one had anything. Improvisation was the rule: William's first bed was on a wire mattress standing on four kerosene tins filled with sand.  William was always a kind, gentle man. He died on 23 May 1957. 

 


013A     14    026A    F    CATER                       ANNIE EMILY                    36,48-49                                 (15. 1.1879)



 

 

 

Migration to

Australia

 

1 A kerosene tin had a 4 gallon (18.2 litre) capacity and was about 23c square and 34c deep. Kerosene was much used as a lamp fuel. When empty it was put to a multitude of uses

 

Personality

 

15 stone = 210 lbs.

            =  95 kg

 

Keeping a promise to

visit her family in

England

 

 

 

2 See the entry for

Kay Melson (16021F) for a description of family visits

 

nnie, the daughter of Edward Cater and Elizabeth Smith, was born at Fincham, Norfolk, England on 15 January 1879. She married William Allerton in 1900 at the age of 21. She and William had three children. Following migration to Western Australia on the Ajana they settled in Harris Street, Palmyra. In the early years life was hard. At first she washed the clothes in kerosene tins1, using a wood fire in the back garden, and fetched water from the nearest supply in Canning Highway. As they saved money, they made improvements. She and William put every part of their land to use, planting fruit trees and grape vines. Annie kept chickens, ducks, geese and a cow. At one time she had seven goats, while William grew vegetables. 

 

Although not tall, Annie in later life weighed fifteen stone.  She had a strong personality and was very determined. Violet considered her a domineering and stern mother. However, she was often very kind, had numerous friends, and could always be heard laughing.

Through hard work she was able to keep a promise made to her mother: After eight years she returned to England to visit her family in England. She took her youngest child, Harry, with her. Her children were important to her and, when they  grew up and  left home, she always expected them to bring their family for a visit every Sunday afternoon2.

 

She died on 20 January 1951 at the age of 72. 

 


-PN-     GN   -FN-     G    SURNAME                 GIVEN NAMES                    CH.FNs                                BIRTH DATE

  0         14    044A    M   McINNES                   DONALD                             53 + 2 others                                    (1???)


 

 

othing is known of Donald's parents. He married Sarah and they had three children: James (b.1882), Mary (b.1885) and Donald (b.1886).

 


 

DESCENDANCY CHART

FOR DONALD McINNES

 

NOTE:

 

The ID number is given for all persons with separate entries in the register.

(eg 14044AM)

 

For those who do not have separate entries, only the generation number, followed by dots, is shown.

(eg 15......)

 

The chart is abridged in that not all children are known and so cannot be shown.

 

His descendancy chart is given below:

 

 14044AM‑‑ Donald MCINNES

 14044AF sp‑Sarah UNKNOWN

      

 1├──15.....‑‑ James MCINNES                        (b.1882)

 2├──15.....‑‑ Mary MCINNES                         (b.1885)

      

 3└──15053AM‑‑ Donald MCINNES                       (b.1886)

     15053AFsp‑Lucy Australia MILLER                (b.1888)

     

     1├─ 16.....‑‑ Heather MCINNES                  (b.1913)

        16..... sp‑Wallie CASSIDY

        

        1└──17.....4‑‑ Heather CASSIDY

            17.....  sp‑Al LAVENDER

            

            1├──18.....‑‑ Kay LAVENDER

            2└──18..... sp‑Tim WEIN

            

     2├──16032AM‑‑ Jean MCINNES                     (b.1916)

        16032AF sp‑Stanley Edward BAKER            (b.1912)

              ╔══════════════════════╗

         └─────╢ See Chart for Thomas

               Baker 14046AM       

               ╚══════════════════════╝

     3├──16.....‑‑ Mavis A. MCINNES                 (b.1918)

        16..... sp‑Albert A SPARKS

        

        1├──17.....‑‑ Rosalind SPARKS

           17.....sp‑UNKNOWN

           

         1-2└──18..... 2 children

             

        2└──17.....‑‑ Unknown SPARKS

              

     4├──16.....‑‑ Donald MCINNES                   (b.1922)

        16..... sp‑Jean UNKNOWN

             

        1├──17.....‑‑ Donald MCINNES

        2└──17.....‑‑ Leslie MCINNES

              

     5├──16.....‑‑ Leslie MCINNES                   (b.1924)

        16..... sp‑UNKNOWN

             

        1└──17.....‑‑ Dianne? MCINNES

              

     6├──16.....‑‑ Lorna MCINNES                    (b.1925)

        16..... sp‑Ken UNKNOWN

             

        1└──17.....‑‑ Ken UNKNOWN

              

     7├──16.....‑‑ June Dawn MCINNES                (b.1929)

        16..... sp‑William (Bill) TAYLOR           (b.1924)

        

        1├──17.....‑‑ Peter William TAYLOR         (b.1949)

        2├──17.....‑‑ Denise Gay TAYLOR            (b.1951)

        3└──17.....‑‑ Allan TAYLOR                 (b.1955)

      

     8├──16.....‑‑ Neil MCINNES                     (b.1932)

        16..... sp‑UNKNOWN

        

        1└──17.....‑‑ Unknown MCINNES

     

     9├──16.....‑‑ Bruce MCINNES

     

    10└──16.....‑‑ Doreen MCINNES

         16..... sp‑Douglas PARIS

         

         1└──4‑‑ Yvonne PARIS

 

 


-PN-     GN   -FN-     G    SURNAME                 GIVEN NAMES                    CH.FNs                                BIRTH DATE

  0         14    044A    F    ?                                 SARAH                                53 + 2 others                                    (1???)

 


 


Nothing is known of Sarah who married Donald McInnes.

 

 


  0         14    045A    M   MILLER                     THOMAS                             53 + 4 others                                    (1???)


 

 

NOTE:

The ID number is given for all persons with separate entries in the register.

(eg 14045AM)

 

For those who do not have separate entries, only the generation number, followed by dots, is shown.

(eg 15......)

 


Thomas and Annie Miller had five children, as shown in the chart below.

 

 14045AM‑‑ Thomas MILLER

 14045AF sp‑Annie UNKNOWN

 

 1├──15.....‑‑ Janet E. MILLER                      (b.1880)

 2├──15.....‑‑ Laura H. MILLER                      (b.1882)

 3├──15.....‑‑ Percy B. MILLER                      (b.1885)

 4├──15.....‑‑ Elsie A. MILLER                      (b.1887)

 

 5└──15053AF‑‑ Lucy Australia MILLER                (b.1888)

     15063AF sp‑Donald MCINNES                      (b.1886)

          ╔══════════════════════════════╗

      └────╢ See Chart in the entry      

           for Donald McInnes [14044AM]

           ╚══════════════════════════════╝

 

 


  0         14    045A    F    ?                                 ANNIE                                 53 + 4 others                                    (1???)


 


Annie Married Thomas Miller and had five children. Nothing else is known.

 

 

 


  0         14    046A    M   BAKER                       THOMAS HENRY                35 + 5 others                           (27. 6.1848)



 

 

homas was born on 27 June 1848 and died on 18 January 1921. He married Elizabeth Ebsworthy and had six children: Herbert, May, Matilda, Thomas, Percival and Lena.

 

An abridged descendancy chart for Thomas is shown on the next page:

 

 

 

 



DESCENDANCY CHART

FOR THOMAS BAKER

 

NOTE:

 

The ID number is given for all persons with separate entries in the register.

(eg 14046AM)

 

For those who do not have separate entries, only the generation number, followed by dots, is shown.

(eg 15......)

 

The chart is abridged in that not all children are known and so cannot be shown.

 

14046AM‑‑ Thomas Henry BAKER (b.1848)

14046AF  sp‑Elizabeth EBSWORTHY (b.1850)

             

1├──15.....‑‑ Matilda B BAKER (b.1870)

2├──15.....‑‑ Thomas Henry BAKER (b.1872)

3├──15.....‑‑ Herbert BAKER

4├──15.....‑‑ May BAKER

             

             

5├──15035AM‑‑ Percival C BAKER (b.1894)

   15035AF sp‑Elizabeth May CURLEY

            

   1├──16.....‑‑ Leslie Thomas BAKER (b.1911)

      16..... sp‑Rita Annabelle NORVAL

           

    1-3└──17......3 children

            

   2├──16032AM‑‑ Stanley Edward BAKER (b.1912)

      16032AF sp‑Jean MCINNES (b.1916)

           

      1├──17......‑‑ Patricia Joan BAKER (b.1936)

      2├──17......‑‑ Janice BAKER (b.1938)

           

      3├──17......‑‑ Kay (Adopted) BAKER (b.1938)

         17...... sp‑Eric Raymond GARDNER (b.1933)

         

         1├──18......‑‑ Carol Ann GARDNER (b.1962)

         2├──18......‑‑ Robyn Jayne GARDNER (b.1963)

         3└──18......‑‑ Jeffrey Allan GARDNER (b.1969)

           

      4├──17......‑‑ Kerry Edward BAKER (b.1945)

         17...... sp‑Elizabeth N SCHULHA (b.1945)

         

         1├──18......‑‑ Evette Monica BAKER‑1530 (b.1971)

         2├──18......‑‑ Gavin Matthew BAKER‑1531 (b.1972)

         3└──18......‑‑ Mark Edward BAKER‑1532 (b.1979)

           

      5├──17......‑‑ Robert Stanley BAKER (b.1947)

         17...... sp1‑Ruth Helen ROGERS (b.1949)

         

         1├──18......‑‑ Kellie Ruth BAKER (b.1969)

         2├──18......‑‑ Paul Robert BAKER (b.1972)

         3└──18......‑‑ Kristin Lee BAKER (b.1980)

           

         17...... sp2 - Unknown

      

      6└──17070AF‑‑ Lee Heather BAKER (b.1959)

          17070AM sp‑Peter John FALL (b.1957)

          

          1├──18041AF‑‑ Shannon Jean FALL (b.1979)

          2├──18042AF‑‑ Michelle Kathleen FALL (b.1981)

          3├──18043AM‑‑ Christopher John FALL (b.1982)

          4└──18098AF‑‑ Amy Elizabeth FALL (b.1989)

            

   3├──16......‑‑ Olive May BAKER (b.1916)

      16...... sp‑Sidney Earnest GREEDY

           

      1├──17......‑‑ Ruth GREEDY

      2├──17......‑‑ Peter GREEDY

      3├──17......‑‑ Sydney GREEDY

      4└──17......‑‑ Stephen GREEDY

            

   4├──16......‑‑ Marian BAKER (b.1919)

      16...... sp‑Harold John (Jack) GUNN

           

      1├──17......‑‑ Helen GUNN

         17...... sp‑Bruce STEPHENSON

         

         1├──18......‑‑ Karen STEPHENSON (b.1970)

         2├──18......‑‑ Neil STEPHENSON

         3└──18......‑‑ Ruth STEPHENSON

           


 

      2├──17......‑‑ Judith GUNN

         17...... sp1‑Andrew KING

         17...... sp2‑Charles UNKNOWN

           

      3├──17......‑‑ Kathryn GUNN

          sp‑Richard DAVIES

         

         1├──18.....‑‑ John Francis DAVIES (1974)

         2├──18.....‑‑ Shannon DAVIES

         3├──18.....‑‑ Unknown DAVIES

         4└──18.....‑‑ Elizabeth DAVIES

           

      4├──17.....‑‑ Susan GUNN

         17..... sp1‑Robert HUMBY

         17..... sp2‑UNKNOWN

         

         1└──18.....‑‑ 1 child

           

      5└──17.....‑‑ Christine GUNN

          17..... sp‑Unknown JAMES

          

          1├──18.....‑‑ Jasmine JAMES

        2-4└──18.....-- 3 other children

            

   5└──16.....‑‑ Harold BAKER

       16..... sp‑Lily UNKNOWN

             

6└──15.....‑‑ Lena BAKER

 

 

 


-PN-     GN   -FN-     G    SURNAME                 GIVEN NAMES                    CH.FNs                                BIRTH DATE

  0         14    046A    F    EBSWORTHY             ELIZABETH                        35 + 5 others                            ( ?. ?.1850)

 


B

 


lizabeth was born in 1850, married Thomas Baker and had six children. She was the eldest in her family, her brothers and sisters being: John (b.1854), Daniel (b.1856), Richard (b.1858), Helen (b.1860) and Mary (b.1863).

 


  0         14    047A    M   CURLEY                    EDWARD W.                       35,58-62                                   ( ?. ?.1856)


B

 


dward, the son of Mr Curley and Jane Teresa Ursaline, was born at Athlone, Ireland, in 1856. On 7 January 1883 he married Ellen Chick. He died at Waratah, Newcastle, N.S.W. on 28 May 1939. He and Ellen had six children, as shown in the descendancy chart below:

 

 14047AM‑‑ Edward W. CURLEY                         (b.1856)

 14047AF sp‑Ellen W. CHICK                          (b.1863)

 

 1├──15.....‑‑ Mary Margaret CURLEY                 (b.1883)

 2├──15.....‑‑ Edward Grey CURLEY                   (b.1885)

 3├──15.....‑‑ Ellen CURLEY                         (b.1890)

 4├──15.....‑‑ Thomas William CURLEY                (b.1892)

 

 5├──15035AF‑‑ Elizabeth May CURLEY

    15035AM sp‑Percival C BAKER                    (b.1894)

           ╔════════════════════════════╗

     └──────╢ See Chart in entry        

            for Thomas Baker [14046AM]

            ╚════════════════════════════╝

 

 6└──15.....‑‑ Jane Bell CURLEY                     (b.1899)

 


  0         14    047A    F    CHICK                       ELLEN W.                           35,58-62                                 (23.10.1863)



B

 

 

llen, the daughter of George Henry Chick and Catherine McDonald, was born on 23 October 1863. She married Edward Curley, and died at Newcastle, N.S.W. on 20 June 1941.

 


-PN-     GN   -FN-     G    SURNAME                 GIVEN NAMES                    CH.FNs                                BIRTH DATE

  0         14    059A    M   CHOWN                     JOHN                                   15,138,154-5                                    (18??)

 


R

 


ohn was the father of Edward John Chown. He and his wife had four children: Arthur, Edward, Frank and "Cis". In 1923 the family lived at Norbury, a suburb of London, England.  The order of the boys was as given above, but it is not known when "Cis" was born. 


  0         14    059A    F    ?                                 ?                                          15,138,154-5                                    (18??)


R

1 16018M


ittle is known of the wife of John Chown. Her grandson, Joseph1, visited her in England in the mid 1950s but, in 1993, could not remember her Christian name. At that time she was well into her eighties and lived in a small unit in Broadstairs. Joseph commented:

 

She seemed uncertain about my relationship to her because she seemed to confuse Arthur, her eldest son who had died many years before, and Edward, whom she had not seen for so long. However, we eventually established that Edward was the one who went to sea and subsequently became my father. She still had his wooden sea chest under her bed.


035A     14    062A    M   LYON                         DOUGLAS                           83-84                                               (18??)


 

1 Information supplied by Patrick McNamara (15031M)


ittle is known. The son of Harold Lyon, he became a pharmacist, married Hilda Quay(?) and had two children, Patricia and Christopher1.

 

 


  0         14    062A    F    QUAY (?)                   HILDA                                 83-84                                               (18??)


 


e are uncertain about the surname. Hilda Married Douglas Lyon and had two children Patricia & Christopher. [Informa­tion supplied by Patrick McNamara (15031M)]

 


  0         14    066A    M   GLOVER                    ARTHUR WILLIAM             10,91-92,139                             (1. 1.1863)


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1 Jean Warren 16005F

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2 Vera Rumble 15010F


rthur William Glover, born in England on 1 January 1863, was the son of William Brooks Glover. He migrated to Western Australia from his home in Streatham, England arriving at Fremantle on the Helena Mena on 8 October 1895. Eventually he became Secre­tary to the Stock Ex­change in Perth. Twice, his mother travelled to Australia to visit him.

 

Arthur married Louisa Shayer on 22 May 1890 and they had four daugh­ters.

 

His granddaughter Jean1 thought that he had a drinking problem and that, at a date probably between 1920 and 1922, he visited a friend on a cattle station in the North West of the State. One day he went riding on his horse. The horse returned, but he did not.

 

One story recounts how he was found dead, sitting up against a tree with his pipe in his mouth. One of his daughters said that he shot himself, although this was denied by another daughter, Vera2, who said he had a heart attack.

 

Vera was not interested in her father, and when her children, Jean, Bob, Peter and Nancy grew up, they knew nothing of him.

 


 



[1] Shorncliffe camp was at Folkestone, Kent. Mark R.