THE  MARKET PLACE

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In the ancient Market Place that seems to have been present since Great  Yarmouth first began as a walled town, No. 1 The Market Place is now the rebuilt post‑war version of the Gallon Pot public house.

before WW2

 

This bears a stone tablet that says‑ "Founded  by  W. N. Burroughs, 1772, destroyed by enemy action 1943, rebuilt by E. Lacon and Co.,  1959". Mike and Maria Spalding currently run it.

Next is Brown's News agency, and Polyanna’s Restaurant, north of row 20. This was all re‑built post‑war. Past row 20 is the  "Two Necked Swan", at 6/7, and then Claxton's menswear at no. 8.

 Here previously was Barnes, the grocers. Cecily Smith from no.  9 Howard Street South, married Barnes' son Billy. This was a long established grocery business, having been here over 100 years. The shop is now Claxton's menswear shop.

 

When in the Barnes family’s possession, this shop had seen four generations of their family, and over a hundred years as family grocers. William Connaught Barnes had two sons, William Frederick, and George Raymond. William Frederick married as stated, Cecily Flora Smith from the bakery in Howard Street South (at number 9). Neither son had any sons of his own to pass the business on to.  

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All the Barnes males were fond of their drink. George Raymond was Grand Master of the Masonic Lodge. William Snr. had given up living over the shop before the war, and went to live in Northgate Street, the upper rooms of the shop then being used as store rooms. The shop was sold prematurely by William Jnr., when he was taken ill at the age of 62, and could draw no old age pension. Briefly then the  shop became a pet shop, but then was bought by two brothers from Ormesby, and became the present Claxton's menswear.  Next to Claxton's is The Conge, and on the south‑east corner of The Conge isthe National Westminster Bank, and walking along the south side of the Market Place we then pass Norman's Furnishing, an important site, once no. 4 a doctors house, and described with Row 26. The  employment services office is empty, the office having  moved  into  a new building on the former site of Middleton's offices and workshops in 1992.  At no. 16 is the National and Provincial Building Society, rebuilt with a Georgian style front. Next there is row 29, beside  which is the Market Tavern,  previously known as "The Growler", this has some  ancient brickwork remaining in the row wall on the south side.     

about 1870

Row 32 is on the south side of The Growler. On the south side of Row 32 is the  Abbey National Building Society, in another rebuilt building with a Georgian style front, beside, going south, "Super-colour",  and  Leach and sons, which is housed in two buildings  together.  The  upper  parts of all these last mentioned  properties  are empty.  Here is Ferrier Row, no.38.Row Thirty Eight The walls  visible in this row, of Leach's,  and the buildings on the south side also, are of considerable antiquity. Leach family, and their Business see also Row 35 The  building  on  the south-east corner of the row here is "Tandem", completely  empty,  and  also  of   considerable antiquity.  Next comes Woolworths store. This is on  the site of the Plaza cinema.

 

1930’s

 Radio Rentals, and then the British Heart Foundation,  is on the north‑east corner of row 44. The British Heart Foundation premises are an older building.  On the south‑east corner of  row  44 is "The Leeds", (building society) and  Dixons (computers, and electronic goods), are both in the same rebuilt Georgian  styled  property.  The Card Company is then on the north‑east corner of row 46.   Row 46 leads to the public house within the row "Back to Backs", this is behind the "Card Company, and are very ancient premises. On the south side of this row, past Back to Backs public house, is the back of the shop destroyed by fire in1992 in Market Row. On 13th September 1995 there was a much more devastating fire in this row (see under Market Row)

 

On the south‑east corner of row 46 (1992),  the Venture Restaurant was completely  modern, although the north wall only is ancient. Here is Market row, and whilst the ground-floor of the north‑east corner was in 1992, boarded  up, (the former burger restaurant) the south‑east corner was (in 1992) "Your Price", where the upper floors have been vacant and for lease for as long as I can remember. This is a late 19th. century building, with sand stone  window dressings that were clearly too soft, and have crumbled and split severely. Hughes T.V. Store, the next shop, is an "original" building.   Here is row 49. Next,  on the south‑east corner of row 49, is Curtess  shoes, with the upper part, a restaurant  for lease, that actually spans row 51. On the south‑east corner of row 51 is the  Halifax building society, that occupies part of  the  building straddling  row 51. Next door is Palmer's store, a 19th. century, red brick building with a new  shop-front designed by David Phillips, added about 1986.

 

Palmer's Store


The business was started by Garwood Burton Palmer. The current buildings were once a public house and granary store, and the deeds include-

 

An Indenture, dated 26th. February in the 21st year of the reign of our Lord Sovereign George II, by the grace of God....  Between Leonard Cutting of Great Yarmouth, Gentleman,   Grandson..  ....at law, of Mary Crome, late of the same town, widow deceased, and John Roope, of Great Yarmouth aforesaid on the other part. In consideration of the sum of five shillings of lawful money. A bargain and sale between the said John Rope, his executors and administrators, .... All that messuage, tenement or dwelling-house late of the above named Mary Crome, and now of him the said Leonard Cutting, commonly named or called by name or sign of the "Plow and Harrow", or by whatever name or names, or known with the shop, edifices buildings, yard, ground, hereditaments and appurtenances, in the occupation of Jeremiah Woolseley and Elizabeth Claybourne, widow. Now in the several possessions and uses or occupation of Noah Stiles and Verity Smitor, widow, between the common Lane or row called the Alms House Row of the south part, and the ground of Elizabeth Smith, widow, in part, and a tenement or dwelling house of Thomas Southwell in part, of the north part, and abutting upon the Market Place of the said town, towards the east, and upon the yard and ground late of the said Mary Crome and now Charles Ffen, mariner, towards the west, and all that tenement or dwelling-house late also of the said Mary Crome and Leonard Cutting.

 

Another deed dated 18th.June 1796:  Mr.William Stone and wife, to Mr.Thomas Crickmays, his trustee, of a granary or warehouse in Great Yarmouth. Thomas Crickmay is stated as a shipmaster, and William Stone - shipmaster. Henry Vale, baker, was a trustee for the aforesaid Thomas Crickmay. The transaction was for £58/5.....  All that granary late of John Ramey, deceased, and the said William Stone, near to a certain row called the Excise Office Row, between the said row and another common row on the south part, and another dwelling-house and ground late in the occupation of William ----- , supervisor of excise. Bargain and sale 16th.April 1794, made between Abigail Ramey, of Great Yarmouth, widow, and Peter Upcher, signed by William Stone, and his wife Mary with a cross only.

 

There is in possession of the current owner, A.G.Sturrock, a notebook kept by the housekeeper of the store, in the 19th.century. At that time many of the staff lived in, and considerable insight into life at that time may be gleaned from the entries-

 

The book was commenced in 1884, a handwritten small notebook in black ink.

 

Fish. No steel knives are to be used for fish, either at breakfast or dinner.

Sundays. Young men are not to return to their bedrooms after breakfast until 9.30, to give time to have the rooms done.

Lavatory-   ante-room, any flowers or other rubbish found on the lavatory, or sink or anywhere near, to be thrown away.

Programme of dinners for the six weekdays. Two days each week, light dumplings and gravey, before the hot beef. One day each week- baked yorkshire pudding or boiled batter and gravy with hot meat. One day each week (except in height of summer) fish or soup, with cold meat and no pudding. Two days each week, some kind of puddings or pie with hot or cold meat.

Absence of Housekeeper. Thursday is the most convenient day for the housekeeper to go out to tea, and for the evening when desired, as the tea (can be given) in one party, a little after five o'clock, and (if so) do not have supper until 9.30, giving her (the housekeeper) the required time (to go out and return) between the meals. Any other time, mention to be made to Mr.Hurry (Palmer) of leave required, that one of the senior hands may be appointed to preside during (the) absence of (the) housekeeper.

Familiarity with the hands. It is requested that no favouritism be shown to any, or unpleasantness and jealousy will (be)sure to follow. Treat all alike, be kind but firm.

Illness. Only in very urgent cases is brandy or other spirit to be supplied to the hands.

Reading at meals is prohibited except at tea. Reading in bed by candle is strictly prohibited. When the alarm bell in ante-room rings, all hands are at once to come into the shop.

Goods for own use. Although the firm allow the housekeeper and assistants the privilege of obtaining goods at cost price, let it be understood that these goods are only for their own use or for bona fide presents. In future any goods not in stock can be ordered by sanction of the firm, but upon such order, 5% will be added to cover cost of carriage postage etc. Such prices not to be quoted outside the house.

No domestic pet as cat bird etc is to be kept by any assistant.

Kitchen. The work girls are not allowed at all in the house or kitchens.

The young ladies are not allowed in the dining room except at meals. After supper it is strictly prohibited.

Candles. are allowed in strict moderation to each room, but hands are warned not to retire to bed with candles still burning

Porters have no business in the kitchen, and are not allowed to have beer given to them without special permission.

Young men are not allowed in the young ladies sitting room or in any part of the front portion of the house.

Bedrooms. The young men are not allowed to go to their rooms after 9 o'clock until after the shop closes. They must bring down what things they require when they leave in the morning. This is to be strictly enforced.

Hot Water if required occasionally. Hands must carry it up themselves, (the) same if baths are required.

Young Ladies sleeping out are to use the lavatory basin in the ante-room.

 

Servants wages:

  Cook-  from £14-18

  First Class Housemaid-  from £10-14 (per annum)

  Second Housemaid- £10-12

  Kitchen girl-  2 shillings- 2/6 per week.

  (these include £2 for washing)

servants are allowed one weeks holiday per year.

Evenings out-

  Cook 2 evenings

  Housemaids- one and a half evenings, or as arranged by the house keeper.

 

Kitchen girl is not to come at all on Sundays.

The young ladies all make their own beds, but the young mens beds require making. Every room should be dusted every morning. Every room should be properly cleaned every week. All mattresses to be brushed once a month when clean sheets put on.

 

Grocers Lists.

provisions- A grocers list, where to deal is made out by Mr.Hurry the first of every month. Butter- fresh from Market every Saturday. If less than 1/6 per pound. If more- buy from Clowes- unsalted "Brittany" butter at 1/4. Marketing done by Mr.Hurry.

List of bakers and quantity to be taken from each, will be arranged by Mr.Hurry once a month. Enter quantity of milk, butter, potatoes which come from in from Gorlestone, in book provided. Fruit and vegetables are not charged for by G.B.P. (Garwood Burton Palmer) except potatoes at market price.

Bread to be second days, and to be checked by housekeeper from monthly bills with the books kept in the kitchen, wherein quantity taken each day as entered in.

Beer. The consumption is to be carefully watched to see that an unlimited quantity is not allowed (I assume that this was supplied since there was no good supply of safe drinking water). Young people are not allowed to have their meals in bed except in cases of illness, and then only with the permission of the housekeeper. This rule must be strictly enforced. Nothing is to be taken upstairs for hands except with permission of housekeeper.

 

Meals on special Occasions

Good Friday- One egg each, and hot cross buns

Shrove Tuesday- pancakes if found possible, to make so many.

Christmas Day. Fowl, plum puddings and dessert arranged by Mr.Hurry. If claimed for any other occasion, refer to Mr.Hurry for instructions.

Sunday after Christmas. Cold joint of meat but hot plum pudding.

 

Normal meals

Teas- cut bread and butter, and two thicknesses every day, but on Tuesdays and Thursdays when convenient, and when have enough dripping make short cakes with currants, but exceptions can be made to this rule, and only plain tea provided. (It sounds pretty plain anyway, and no mention of jam!)

Sundays Tea. Little home made plum cake if convenient.

Breakfast. Plain cut bread and butter, tea and coffee, two thicknesses, one for young men, one for young ladies (thinner for the girls?), except Sundays, when half a ham is provided, the other half coming for the following Sunday breakfast, may be varied with cold boiled bacon if preferred.

Sunday Supper to consist of the usual cheese and butter only.

Suppers. Nothing whatever to be provided for this meal but bread and cheese and butter only.

Suppers. Nothing whatever is to be provided for this meal but bread cheese and butter except on Saturday nights and perhaps Thursday.

Dinners. Twice a week, Tuesday and Saturday generally have Norfolk Dumplings and gravey. Once a week have baked Yorkshire pudding and gravey. Once a week have boiled batter puddings and gravey. Once a fortnight - Fridays generally, have either fried or boiled fish with joint of cold meat. Boiled fish is preferred when have fish provided pudding but only two courses allowed.

 

the Distillery Hotel at No 40, in 1938 was “sandwiched” between the main and the mens department stores.

 

In a separate book-

Business Expenses.

 


1878-79

Ale  £30/19/3      

Coals £13/8/3

Housekeeping £282/4/7

Provisions £122/9/11

Salaries £652/1/4

Work  £217/11/3

Gas £68/6/0

Insurance  £20/8/6

Shop Expenses  £105/15/11

Repairs  £40/3/8

Carriage  £112/12/2

Travelling  £8/11/6

Rent and taxes  £127/12/10

Interest  £392/16/4

Discounts  £50/18/0

  Grand Total  £2,253/19/6

 

1900-01

Ale   £31/3/0

Coals  £9/4/3

Housekeeping £423/19/6

Provisions  £87/3/3

Salaries  £899/15/3

work  £93/14/6

Gas  £93/13/8

Electric light  £69/3/9

Insurance  £45/19

Shop Expenses  £177/17

Repairs  £37/9/9

Carriage £100/6/7

Travelling  £13/2/6

Rents and Taxes  £128/11/11

Interest £51/10/6

Discount  £297/5/9

Dressmaking  £157/6/11

Gifts  £29/1/11

  Grand Total £2,946/9/0

 

 

 

 

1914-15

coal  £7/4

Housekeeping  £316/2/1

Provisions  £97/16

Salaries  £1,015/15/5

Work  £177/3/7

Dressmaking  £216/7/10

Gas  £53/10/2

Electric light  £34/14/6

Insurance £72/5/6

Shop Expenses  £146/14/2+ £11/17/4

Carriage  £66/12/2+1/4

Travelling  £9/12

Rates and Taxes  £330/13/2

Interest  £49/10

Discount  £232/13/11

Repairs  £54/7/5

Gifts  £30/3/2

  Grand Total £2,930/2/10

 

 


The Palmer Family Tree

 

             William Palmer married Elizabeth Rainemorter

their family-

Sarah,     William (1715-1788),    Ambrose,    Nathaniel,    William,    Mary

               married Sarah Cox of Cromer (1730-1807)- both buried in Yarmouth Churchyard.

offspring of William-          

William,     Nathaniel,     Samuel,    John Danby

  John Danby (1769-1842) married Bearle

their children-   Cordelia Ann, married John Robinson and had numerous issue;

                Charles John, F.S.A., solicitor, married Amelia Graham Lacon, and had no children;                   and, Frederic.

William Danby Palmer and Sarah Cox also had four daughters- Sarah, who married Thomas Jay, Capt.;  Mary, who married Thomas Hurry;  Elizabeth, who married William John Hurry; and Tomasin, who married Charles Jay, R.N.

 

Garwood Burton Palmer started the drapery store that has built up to the current substantial retailing business. His line of descent is through William, and Nathaniel above. The latter married Lorina Burton, and had eight children. One son, James Hurry Palmer, married Mary Garwood. James Hurry Palmer, stamp distributor, died in 1857, aged 69, and had-

James Hurry,  Garwood Burton,  Daniel Bly,  Emma Elizabeth,  Nathaniel Benjamin,  Louisa, and Adelaide, who married Henry Spelman. James Hurry Palmer is the "Mr.Hurry" referred to by the housekeeper. Garwood Burton Palmer died in 1888, aged 73, married to Betsy Bracey, and secondly to Eliza Spelman, but had no children. The descent therefore continues through Nathaniel Benjamin, married to Emma Boardman. They had-

Emma L., Alice M., James Hurry, Clement and E. Ernest. Nathaniel Benjamin Palmer was born in 1824 and died in 1862, aged 38. Emma Boardman was the daughter of James Boardman of Norwich, and born in 1829, she died in 1923. They had two sons, James Hurry Palmer and Edward Ernest Palmer. They owned the shop jointly, and were referred to by Dorothy Carr of Lime Kiln Walk, who remembered them before the first World War. The descent continues through James Hurry Palmer who had six children-

Percival, Hilda, Harold, Muriel, Clement,  and Dorothy.

Percival, the eldest son, born 1882, married Kathleen Alice, and their children were-

Aubrey, Mavis, and Hazel.  Hazel married A.G.Sturrock, and they are the current owners of the store. Their children are-

Bruce,  Wendy,  and Madeleine.  Bruce married Elizabeth Holmes. Their children are-

James,  Richard,  Emma.   Wendy married Peter Beaumont. Their children are-

Giles, and by a second marriage, to James Cole, Oliver and Hamish. Madeleine has married Alexis Neofetou, and has a son- Daniel

 

One or two more of the Housekeeper's Rules:

"The hands all sit in seniority at the table, and are to be served in that order each meal, Ladies first, Gentlemen next. Assistants being late, or refusing to keep the rules, or to obey the housekeeper, are to be reported to Mr.Hurry. Assistants who continually grumble at the food provided, are to be reported."  !        

 

No. 41 and 42 are MacKays, an all modern (post-war) very square and totally characterless edifice. Here is Austin  Row, no. 60, after which is the commencement of King Street.   

On the South side of the Market Place, are Burton's Tailoring shop, and  the rebuilt Savings Bank, now the "T.S.B.". Rebuilt in 1939, but externally  very similar to the previous building.  Along the  east  side of the Market Place, proceeding in a northerly direction, there is Dorothy Perkins  (ladies fashions),  Boots the Chemist, and Milletts (camping and similar items). These three are in the "Market Gates" shopping precinct.  

 

Crossing Market Road, there is an empty shop, recently a newsagent, and once "The  Bull" public house.  Next, at  no. 50,  is the Cheltenham and Gloucester Building Society,  all  these  are post‑war buildings. No. 51 is "The Water Margin" chinese restaurant. This is advertising a four course lunch for 3 pounds and fifty pence.  (very good value) Argos catalogue store is the next  building,  followed by United News Tobacconist, and "Tramps" clothing store. Then are two  pre‑war  buildings; market down, a small square building set back from the line of its neighbour, the Norwich Co-operative department store. On the north side of that building is the entrance to the Dissenter's Burial Ground, which is at the moment  inaccessible,  locked up permanently, and getting fast overgrown. This was locked due to vagrants and vandalism, but should be maintained and kept open part of the day and shut at night only to prevent the vagrants sleeping in there.  

 

Off the Market Place, once stood the Methodist Temple ..\..\SOUND\TUCK9.WAV

 

The hospital school was rebuilt in 1931. The boy's school was in the northern half, and the girls school in the southern half. Now it is part of the Norfolk School of Art and Design, nevertheless is appears empty and closed up excepting the gymnasium at the rear. Before that it was St. Nicholas Priory Middle School Annexe. At no. 68 is the original house of Miles Corbet, the Regicide, who died in 1662. On the northern side of  this at  the moment is "Old Moon Ethnic Emporium", previously all part of the butchers at the front, but which has reduced in size and also changed hands. Currently this is "G. and G. Quality Butchers". Next is the former Lacons' establishment,  the Coachmakers public house, landlords- Hazel MacLennan, and Wayne Peter Smith.   

Here is St. Nicholas Road. On the north‑west corner of St. Nicholas Road is the fisherman's Hospital, founded by  the corporation in 1702, restored in 1929, and further restored in 1985.  It was re‑opened by H. R. H. The Duke of Gloucester in 1987. It is one of Yarmouth's most delightful and original  buildings, separately described elsewhere in this work.

 

 

The Occupants, Market Place, 1938

(from Church Plain to 185 King Street)

 

West side

1 & 2. Lacon,E., & Co. Ltd., (Burroughs), wine and spirit merchants

3. Forder, Frank, furniture dealer

4. Middletons Limited, stationers

5. Steward and son, chemists

 

....Row 20....

 

6. The Two Necked Swan P.H., B.S.Smedley

7. Richardson, Daniel C., boot factor

8. Barnes' provision stores, grocers

 

....Row 22....

 

9. Currys Limited, cycle dealers

10. Edwards, Frank Walter, baker

 

....Row 24....

 

11. Blue Anchor Hotel, Samuel Wilkerson

12. Foulsham's Restaurant

13 & 14. Norman and son, furniture dealers

 

....Row 26....

15. Southey, Daniel, bazaar

16. Patrick, William Horner, ,outfitter

 

....Row 29....

 

17. King's Head Hotel, F.W.Spink

 

....Row 32....

 

18. (flats 1. and 2.) Ray, William

18. & 19. Austin's (Gt.Yarmouth) Ltd., drapers and house furnishers

 

....Row 35....

20. Leach and son, (Norfolk) Ltd., ironmongers

21. Leach and son (Norfolk) Ltd.,oil and  colour merchants

staff at Leaches

....Row 38....

 

22. Turner and son Ltd., boot makers

23. Kay, John Limited, boot manufacturers

23. Brumstead, Frederick James

 

....Row 40....

 

24. Plaza Cinema, proprietor A.E.Williams

....Row 43....

 

25. Smith and Daniels, cutlers

26. Fletcher, W. & R., Ltd., butchers

 

....Row 44....

Angel Hotel; Fletcher’s on the right

27. Angel Hotel, H.R.Huggins

28. Backs Ltd., wine and spirit merchants

 

....Row 46....

 

29. Hepworth, J., and son Ltd., clothiers

29. Barnett, Frank

 

....Market Row....

 

31. International Tea Co., stores Limited, grocers &c.

32.  & 33. Coopers, Gt.Yarmouth Ltd., ironmongers and builders merchants

 

....Row 49....

 

34. Freeman Hardy and Willis Ltd., boot makers

 

....Row 21....

Purdy’s sign

35 & 36. Purdy, W., Ltd., post office and bakers

 

....Row 511/2....

 

37,38,38a,39,41, & 42. Palmer's Departmental Store, drapers &  house furnishers

 

....Row 54....

....Row 56....

 

40. The Market Distillery Hotel,  Edward A..Moore

 

....Row 58....

 

41 & 42. Palmer's Departmental Store (mens dept.)

 

....King Street...

 

43 & 43a. Montague Burton Ltd., tailors

43a. The Co-operative Insurance Society Limited (J.H.Brophy, district manager).

43a. Young Men's Christian Association & Hostel

44. East Anglian Trustee Savings Bank (G.H.Gedge, manager)

44. Youngs, Benjamin Percy

 

....Theatre Plain....

 

east side

48. Nichols and Wooden, Restaurant & fishmongers

 

Market Tavern, many years before becoming the Fish Stall Pub.

49. Fish stall P.H., Alfred McDonald Rorrison

....Market Gates....

50. Hollis, Arthur, corn merchant

51. Overill, Alfred George, cycle engineer

52 & 53. Savory R..Ltd., fruit salesmen

54. Bullen, Edward F., tyre distributor

55. Morris, Mrs.Harriett, confectioner

57. Great Yarmouth Co-operative Society Ltd., butchers

58. McCarthy D. and F., wholesale fruiterers

59 & 60. Great Yarmouth Co-operative Society Ltd., boot and shoe dealers

 

Hospital School

  Yarmouth Hospital Schools (Harry J.Cox, master; Miss E.Stevens, mistress)

68. Leggett, Harry George

69. Fiddy, H.W., saddler

70. Stevens, E.R., beer retailer

 

....St.Nicholas Road....